tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post4664904529203152403..comments2023-09-08T03:24:29.222-07:00Comments on Faeit 212: News and Rumors: The Eldar Wraithknight, Is it Worth It?Natfkahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11989148162989326284noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-67305556701110590872013-06-03T11:04:43.661-07:002013-06-03T11:04:43.661-07:00I love the guys who say my this could kill this wi...I love the guys who say my this could kill this with no effort arguements, as if terrain, troop placement, and turn order have no place in the game at all. Now if trueborn ignore 3+ armor, 4++ cover save, and 5++ invulnerable save, and don't need to roll to hit and 4+ to wound then yeah I guess you could kill it easy peasy. Kellvainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-17777453154489855522013-06-03T10:39:05.234-07:002013-06-03T10:39:05.234-07:00@anonymous If you think like that, then the opposi...@anonymous If you think like that, then the opposite is true. In a perfect situation a wraithknight can kill full paladin unit in a single turn.nelsonushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05714677080294526960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-21708043829341271952013-06-02T19:54:49.487-07:002013-06-02T19:54:49.487-07:00For the record, it is i5. It is great in selective...For the record, it is i5. It is great in selective combats as well. Obviously you want to avoid getting charged by anything with poison or instant death, but it can easily overrun many non-marine infantry units. Being able to move 12" means that you can certainly keep your distance from most perilous close combat threats (flying monstrous creatures are the exception). Anyway, it is huge, looks awesome, and is really fun to play with :Dnoahwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682454346662961394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-12416246062483739562013-06-02T18:30:05.838-07:002013-06-02T18:30:05.838-07:00Check the previews of the Iyanden codex ;)Check the previews of the Iyanden codex ;)JRBunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06850315083987388362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-61905791754592986082013-06-02T15:28:54.011-07:002013-06-02T15:28:54.011-07:00Anyone stop to think that this thing could be kill...Anyone stop to think that this thing could be killed in a single turn by a unit of dark eldar trueborn with splinter cannons and shaed carbines? Seems to me it would be too easy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-39917509892770745212013-06-02T11:27:22.727-07:002013-06-02T11:27:22.727-07:00**wish list*** wish they had a reverse smash, &quo...**wish list*** wish they had a reverse smash, "swathe- half strength for twice the attacks." Xax Making Trackshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06469557118838389529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-28411007167833516622013-06-02T11:23:48.789-07:002013-06-02T11:23:48.789-07:00I was think the same way about deep striking. Taki...I was think the same way about deep striking. Taking the fighter with the wraith Knight, and perhaps another deep striking or outflanking unit, will make your opponent at least make a tough decision about his interceptor fire. Xax Making Trackshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06469557118838389529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-63330246766992319712013-06-02T10:04:42.288-07:002013-06-02T10:04:42.288-07:00I have played two games using the wraith knight an...I have played two games using the wraith knight and I have to say I like it even at 300+ pts. Its T8 and 6 wounds are durable. In a standard game where you and your opponent set up terrain as you will put half of the terrain onto the table you should be able to manipulate the table enough to set locations up for cover saves, and even if not you can still get the 5++ which I recommend. Its jump ability makes it incredibly mobile and unlike the wraith lord pouring in a bunch of S8 AP3 shots isn't as guaranteed as 6 wounds is a hell of allot more to chew through. The scatter laser reroll suncannon shots is incredibly handy as you advance to close into melee, and yes this guy is going to eat up some shots as your opponent tries to take him down before the melee beat down. <br /><br />Yes there are going to be some moments where this model wont shine mass poison shooting weapons, or 20+ fearless squads tarpitting it, but most decent players should be able to mitigate this with the rest of their army. <br /><br />Tournament players are going to have some issue with this as its not as slam dunk as say 3 heldrakes with bale flamers. Understandably in the tournament setting you don't normally have player terrain set up, "or possibly even much terrain" either. <br /><br />Overall though I believe it is solid even at it's high cost in a high points cost army. Kellvainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-60427378924444388302013-06-02T09:06:12.538-07:002013-06-02T09:06:12.538-07:00While I agree that is a huge advantage. No one sho...While I agree that is a huge advantage. No one shows up to a game with only Str 4 shooting. Long Fangs with 5 Missiles should be a couple wounds a round. With 3 Heavy Support choices, the Wraith Knight will last 1-2 rounds tops. Against a Dreadknight, the Dreadknight is STR 10 and will activate its force weapon on the first sucessful wound. Against a Riptide, it stands a decent chance I guess since the Ion Accelerator is Str 7, but the Riptide gets to be shooty and have an invulnerable save, but the Wraithknight has to give up its big guns to get a invulnerable save. Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes stand a good chance against it too, especially with a Daemon Weapon.<br /><br />At the end of the day, no unit exists in a vacuum. We cant just look at the Eldar Codex and decide if its good or not. We need to look at all the Armies to judge its worth. I think the real winner here is the Wraithlord. It will be easier to get a cover save for the Wraithlord, it will be STR9 and re-rolling a miss in close combat due to the Ghost Glaive, and can be given a Scatter Laser to TL a Bright Lance or Missile LauncherAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18094055201607490908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-47915725746047925582013-06-02T08:31:07.934-07:002013-06-02T08:31:07.934-07:00The laser lock rule says 'roll to hit with thi...The laser lock rule says 'roll to hit with this weapon first. If it hits, all other weapons on that model are twin-linked for the rest of that phase.' Codex rules over BRB rules.Xax Making Trackshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06469557118838389529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-34541883446462073692013-06-02T08:03:58.978-07:002013-06-02T08:03:58.978-07:00rabid stoat (fantastic name by the way!) you'r...rabid stoat (fantastic name by the way!) you're quite right. My apologies. <br /><br />The weird bit is it then goes on to say that all other weapons are twin linked, but all shots occur simultaneously. How's that work then? pegboardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13181689355785748593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-20792237287918368902013-06-02T06:51:52.099-07:002013-06-02T06:51:52.099-07:00It's tough to say whether it's worth it or...It's tough to say whether it's worth it or not. The problem is at $115 that costs a lot to put in on the field to try it out. It'll definitely be a huge fire magnet just because it's so damn big, but I dunno. I really wish it could assault zooming flyers. That would have been awesome if it could swat them down like King Kong.The Harrowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16445837173269170844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-77341659403088874632013-06-02T05:34:05.608-07:002013-06-02T05:34:05.608-07:00Having the toughness 8 makes sure that only a very...Having the toughness 8 makes sure that only a very small amount of weapons can actually hurt them though, anything less than S5 (i.e. 90% of most armies)is useless against them.Caliban and Prosperohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14256529703332587789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-8380395622206110572013-06-02T04:02:15.011-07:002013-06-02T04:02:15.011-07:00@pegboard
Are you talking about Laser Lock on the...@pegboard<br /><br />Are you talking about Laser Lock on the scatter laser? Because I don't read anything about 6s - it just has to hit. This is 20pts to be able to re-roll the scatter on 3x BLAST suncannon shots? I'll pay it. <br /><br />Whether I field it every game depends on the actual performance.rabid stoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07912320853917208064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-30752769651872486202013-06-02T03:00:57.394-07:002013-06-02T03:00:57.394-07:00It also only works on a 6, just to get twin linked...It also only works on a 6, just to get twin linked. Far better to use a psychich power to get a higher BS, such as the Spirit Seer rule. <br /><br />It is all pointing toward a 'future' game type, one where the units such a model would be good against are fielded en mass. At the moment it's looking for a role. <br /><br />pegboardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13181689355785748593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-69983423386393080272013-06-02T02:57:17.247-07:002013-06-02T02:57:17.247-07:00It's not shooting that will kill it but close ...It's not shooting that will kill it but close combat.<br /><br />Imagine it being charged by plague bearers, or something with a balesword, or anything that causes instant death at AP2.<br /><br />It should never be in combat. It's fundamentally anti-tank, especially with I4 and Ws4. The real problem is the things it'd be good against aren't on the battlefield - yet. Perhaps that's the point but then... you could get ten wraithguard with S10 weapons in it's place....<br /><br />It's a lovely model though. pegboardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13181689355785748593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-67496881216255273902013-06-02T02:49:49.617-07:002013-06-02T02:49:49.617-07:00It'd probably look strange, but if I took a Su...It'd probably look strange, but if I took a Suncannon I'd take one scatter laser on the shoulder for the lazer lock rule - that's 300 points though, like you said. <br /><br />Other than that I'd consider Glaive+Shield+Scatter+Star, but in all probability I'd take just the base loadout.<br /><br />Hope my spirit seer rolls Destructor/Renewer and Protect/Jinx alot! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-91382960413876962532013-06-02T02:22:29.611-07:002013-06-02T02:22:29.611-07:00Would you be able to post a comparison shot of a k...Would you be able to post a comparison shot of a knight next to the Eldar titans?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-37369937046263950692013-06-02T01:16:43.632-07:002013-06-02T01:16:43.632-07:00Yeah, it starts with 2 anti-tank guns, and can rep...Yeah, it starts with 2 anti-tank guns, and can replace them with shield and either sword or single anti-TEQ blast gun. It can buy up to 2x scatter or star or shuriken cannons in any combo, but can only shoot 2 guns a turn (monstrous creature). I'm planning on suncannon and shield plus one scatter laser for the twin-linked. Anti-tank will be the fists and feet at str10.rabid stoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07912320853917208064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-42353966309778503172013-06-02T00:11:30.169-07:002013-06-02T00:11:30.169-07:00I havent read the codex, but i expect you dont HAV...I havent read the codex, but i expect you dont HAVE to take 4 weapons and that 2 of those slots are options. And surely if you take 2 CC weapons and 2 range weapons he can use all 4 weapons every turn?Unforgivenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135347853326466709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-60440278543311173972013-06-01T23:38:28.937-07:002013-06-01T23:38:28.937-07:00The problem with wraithlords is that they take up ...The problem with wraithlords is that they take up a whole HS slot for just 3 wounds... die pretty easily with to long fangs and AT heavy weaponry...at least you can get double the wounds but still have 2 HS slots left...LGUNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07404556629721974600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-73889908517311737412013-06-01T23:35:06.038-07:002013-06-01T23:35:06.038-07:00I've finally caught on to how to use one now. ...I've finally caught on to how to use one now. I was looking at 'Jump Monstrous Creature' but didn't stop to think that it could Deep Strike.<br /><br />That's how it survives being the alpha target - its not there until turn 2+ and then it could be INSIDE your opponents deployment zone, blowing up his deathstar unit!<br /><br />The possibility is worth 240+ points, I think.rabid stoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07912320853917208064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-73729484950065357182013-06-01T22:12:59.865-07:002013-06-01T22:12:59.865-07:00I think the biggest dissapointment for me with the...I think the biggest dissapointment for me with the wraithknight is its armor save only being 3+. Most armies are not going to struggle with it, and if it was a 2+ it would be about right for those points. It looks like the weakest of the three ubersuits to me, but is also the most expensive ($$ and points). Dreadknight will destroy it in a single round of close combat 9 times in 10, and the Riptide can outshoot and is more survivable. Neither the Dreadknight or the Riptide worry much about Krak Missiles, but they will be the bane of these guys.<br /><br />I think wraithlords are a better option.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18094055201607490908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-64812095134650807502013-06-01T21:57:24.564-07:002013-06-01T21:57:24.564-07:00Why do they have pics of the wraithknight having a...Why do they have pics of the wraithknight having a wraithcannon and scatterfield, and having shoudler sponsors being D-sycthes yet no rules to make that model?anyonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072058990909043548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5414553324918777131.post-91525781941093413242013-06-01T21:55:37.337-07:002013-06-01T21:55:37.337-07:00@ rabid stoat
You could try deep striking it.... L...@ rabid stoat<br />You could try deep striking it.... LoLSpellduckwronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17562390052997011776noreply@blogger.com